Saturday, October 31, 2009
Trading & Selling @ Arcade center
Hearsay story : This team of a single Man (with dye yellow hair) and/or a Teenager boy had always been spotted at Lot 1 arcade trying to sell their Anmal kaiser cards (some english cards and alot Japanese cards for sale).The Golden hair guy had been there frequently and he is indeed very persuasive in selling the cards to those parents /kids there.
The problem is : Sometime people complain about their attitude as he is quite pushy in his words to ask parents to buy...but this type of sale tactic may cause discomfort to others.
Real encounter from one of our ZoneX forumer:XX道, which he shared on 7/11/2009:
Blog Master suggestion: Report him to the arcade's staff if he is overdoing over his "pushy" sale that had somehow become a nuisance to anyone there & had casue any form of disruption or discomfortable feeling to individual. Otherwise,express to him politely that you are not interested or simply just ignore him !
Is trading sale ok within the arcade ?
Rumours mention that some Seller sharing their bad experienc having been chased out of the center as he try to close deal (exchange card for $ transit).Reported are 2 places (one @ parkway arcade ,the other @ century square ) where the staffs DO NOT ALLOW business Touting within the gaming premise.
Another of our Zone-X forumer had posted the following from the Miscellaneous Offence Chapter 184 that reads:
Touting for business
32. Any person in any public road, public place, place of public resort or vehicle on a public road who, in connection with any trade or business (whether or not carried on by that person), solicits any other person persistently or in any manner as to cause or be likely to cause annoyance to that other person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both and, in the case of a second or subsequent conviction, to a fine of not less than $2,000 and not more than $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or to both.
So , beware of the Law !! Obey and do not break them in any manner
Do you know ?
There are routine patrol from Policeman (usally they work 2 as a team) to spot-check arcade place at least 1-2 times a day. I've always hang around sembawang's Sun plaza (star Factory) and had seen this type of routine spot check quite often.
Will Policeman catch you for using PRINTED photocopied AK card @ arcade ?
Accordingly to some saying , as long as you put real $ into the animal kaiser machine to play the game , it is OK to use photcopied cards for fun playing. The arcade staff also never stop you from not using original card ~ more important to them is that you put CREDIT into the machine for hours of play ..then their business is solid lah..haha
Blog Master suggestion: If really need to deal any cards, both Seller and Buyer should do it outside the arcade place. Buyer should consider carefully and make purchase only if the price is right for his budget limit.
I am curious whether if any of us here had been warned / fine for using PRINNTED card ? Also wondering if any arcade staff had stop you from using such photocopied card within their game premise? We want you to Share with us your experience..
We welcome any feedback or suggestion regards this topic.
Email us at : aksg2009@gmail.com
The problem is : Sometime people complain about their attitude as he is quite pushy in his words to ask parents to buy...but this type of sale tactic may cause discomfort to others.
Real encounter from one of our ZoneX forumer:XX道, which he shared on 7/11/2009:
Blog Master suggestion: Report him to the arcade's staff if he is overdoing over his "pushy" sale that had somehow become a nuisance to anyone there & had casue any form of disruption or discomfortable feeling to individual. Otherwise,express to him politely that you are not interested or simply just ignore him !
Is trading sale ok within the arcade ?
Rumours mention that some Seller sharing their bad experienc having been chased out of the center as he try to close deal (exchange card for $ transit).Reported are 2 places (one @ parkway arcade ,the other @ century square ) where the staffs DO NOT ALLOW business Touting within the gaming premise.
Another of our Zone-X forumer had posted the following from the Miscellaneous Offence Chapter 184 that reads:
Touting for business
32. Any person in any public road, public place, place of public resort or vehicle on a public road who, in connection with any trade or business (whether or not carried on by that person), solicits any other person persistently or in any manner as to cause or be likely to cause annoyance to that other person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine of not less than $1,000 and not more than $5,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both and, in the case of a second or subsequent conviction, to a fine of not less than $2,000 and not more than $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or to both.
So , beware of the Law !! Obey and do not break them in any manner
Do you know ?
There are routine patrol from Policeman (usally they work 2 as a team) to spot-check arcade place at least 1-2 times a day. I've always hang around sembawang's Sun plaza (star Factory) and had seen this type of routine spot check quite often.
Will Policeman catch you for using PRINTED photocopied AK card @ arcade ?
Accordingly to some saying , as long as you put real $ into the animal kaiser machine to play the game , it is OK to use photcopied cards for fun playing. The arcade staff also never stop you from not using original card ~ more important to them is that you put CREDIT into the machine for hours of play ..then their business is solid lah..haha
Blog Master suggestion: If really need to deal any cards, both Seller and Buyer should do it outside the arcade place. Buyer should consider carefully and make purchase only if the price is right for his budget limit.
I am curious whether if any of us here had been warned / fine for using PRINNTED card ? Also wondering if any arcade staff had stop you from using such photocopied card within their game premise? We want you to Share with us your experience..
We welcome any feedback or suggestion regards this topic.
Email us at : aksg2009@gmail.com
Price Trend : Champion Lion card
The 1st prize for Version 1 battle tournament = Champion Lion Card
However, current Anmal Kaiser Version 1 is coming to a end very soon.
(Everyone is now saving up & waiting for version 2)
So , what will be the next Champion card for Version 2 tournament ?
Rumours says that it is the Great white shark !
The next question is ...what will happen to the Champion Lion ?
There will be no more issue of Champion Lion from Version 2 onwards. And being the very 1st issue , this is a very IMPORTANT card for every animal kaiser Collector ! I can say that this is a MUST HAVE item ..die die also must get.(Not to be missed !)
Since there will be no more supply , demand will rise and hence will be the price .
Base on what i observed over past 2 months, the prices of champ Lion various from S$75(lowest) to S$180 (Highest).
Ebay Selles always like to start bid from S$100 or BIN(Buy it now) priced at S$150
Take note that our current Version 1 (champion Lion) is slighly cheaper or almost equal to current Version 8 (Jap Champion Gorilla Card). This is the 5th champion card issued in Japan. 1 seller @ Ebay had the starting price fix at S$130 and had the same BIN price at S$150.
Take note that Japanese Champion Lion card (which is issued 2 years ago for their version 1) is considered rare and can fetch close to S$200 if not more.. with current market.
All hardcore collector should get all 5 Japan champion cards..as a complete set
Current market price ?
If arcade center are no longer giving out champ Lion card , its value and price will GROW up with great demand !
Price Champion Lion card had been gone up slightly and stablilise around S$95 ~ S$110...it's value will continue to rise up over the time just like the Japan's Champion Lion card where collector are soughting for to complete their CHAMPION SET.
I will not be surprise if it will reach S$200 for a good condition champ lion card in 2 years time , assuming that Animal Kaiser continue to grow popularity in Singapore.
Hearsay story:One of the ALL-time-BEST experienced gamer who had won more than 10 champion Lion over these 3 months...mentioned that just last week in few days ,he had very good business until he's out of stock now. He continue to receive many calls for order.This is what i call BIG demand but less supply now.
Please be reminded that we are now into the last or second last week of version 1.
Timezone had already stopped all version 1 tournament since Oct09. Rumours says that Virtualland & Star factory had already stopped all version 1 tournament.Curently, if you want to win the last few available Champion Lion...ZoneX is the only hope now.
They may stop anytime too (pending version 2 launch)...So, Go get it before they are gone !!!
Note : The above pricing are personal Opinion from Blog Master. This is for pleasure reading and reference purpose only.
However, current Anmal Kaiser Version 1 is coming to a end very soon.
(Everyone is now saving up & waiting for version 2)
So , what will be the next Champion card for Version 2 tournament ?
Rumours says that it is the Great white shark !
The next question is ...what will happen to the Champion Lion ?
There will be no more issue of Champion Lion from Version 2 onwards. And being the very 1st issue , this is a very IMPORTANT card for every animal kaiser Collector ! I can say that this is a MUST HAVE item ..die die also must get.(Not to be missed !)
Since there will be no more supply , demand will rise and hence will be the price .
Base on what i observed over past 2 months, the prices of champ Lion various from S$75(lowest) to S$180 (Highest).
Ebay Selles always like to start bid from S$100 or BIN(Buy it now) priced at S$150
Take note that our current Version 1 (champion Lion) is slighly cheaper or almost equal to current Version 8 (Jap Champion Gorilla Card). This is the 5th champion card issued in Japan. 1 seller @ Ebay had the starting price fix at S$130 and had the same BIN price at S$150.
Take note that Japanese Champion Lion card (which is issued 2 years ago for their version 1) is considered rare and can fetch close to S$200 if not more.. with current market.
All hardcore collector should get all 5 Japan champion cards..as a complete set
Current market price ?
If arcade center are no longer giving out champ Lion card , its value and price will GROW up with great demand !
Price Champion Lion card had been gone up slightly and stablilise around S$95 ~ S$110...it's value will continue to rise up over the time just like the Japan's Champion Lion card where collector are soughting for to complete their CHAMPION SET.
I will not be surprise if it will reach S$200 for a good condition champ lion card in 2 years time , assuming that Animal Kaiser continue to grow popularity in Singapore.
Hearsay story:One of the ALL-time-BEST experienced gamer who had won more than 10 champion Lion over these 3 months...mentioned that just last week in few days ,he had very good business until he's out of stock now. He continue to receive many calls for order.This is what i call BIG demand but less supply now.
Please be reminded that we are now into the last or second last week of version 1.
Timezone had already stopped all version 1 tournament since Oct09. Rumours says that Virtualland & Star factory had already stopped all version 1 tournament.Curently, if you want to win the last few available Champion Lion...ZoneX is the only hope now.
They may stop anytime too (pending version 2 launch)...So, Go get it before they are gone !!!
Note : The above pricing are personal Opinion from Blog Master. This is for pleasure reading and reference purpose only.
Winning Tips : Sure win Champion !
How to guarentee to win Champion Lion for version 1 battle tournament?
Tip:Gather 15 headcounts (friends/relative/family members etc) and include yourself to make up = total 16. Take down all the names & IC number particular, then approach any arcade center to register early.. preferly immdiately after current tournament end(so that you will be the 1st to book for next week's schedule). Entire Round 1 will be all your own people and whoever wins also doesn't matter ...the Champion Lion card + Gold deck box + Silver deck box will go to Organiser who will pay for everyone to play free. So the inestment cost is 16 x S$2 = S$32
Story hearsay(1):31% winning percentage
2 week ago @ Ang Mo Kio Big Mac center (Virtual land) ,Both Round 1 and Round 2 had the same 10 players from 2 families.
Family (1) = 5 members
Family (2) = 5 members
The remaining places are left for others to join...
So,the chance of Winning for each family = 5/16 = 31.25%
Result : Heard that one of the family's 4 years old daughter won the champion
(1st time !)
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Story hearsay(2):100% winning percentage
Last week @ Bishan J8 (Virtualland) tournament Round 1 was book by 1 resourceful Aunty. She approach the staff with a listing of all name particulars and filled up the entire list for Round 1 (all 16 spaces occupied). Then , she ask for another sheet of registration paper and straight away filled up the same name lsiting for Round 2 !! The staff did not stop her beacause registration is base on 1st come 1st serve !!
That week tournament is just like a BIG party from the same "family " gang of 16 people ...other people who wanted to join the tournament...sorry loh...full house...wait another week ..wah ~ wah ~~
Result : Heard that her daughter won 1st prize in round 1...not sure about round 2.
Its a fantastic strategy deal....
Total cost :S$64 = 2 Champion Lion cards + 2 Gold decks + 2 Silver decks
So now...what are you guys waiting for? go get your army of 16 and start to register and book for entire month..haha
Latest update:
Rumour mention that one of the arcade center (White Sand ~ Virtualland) now had tighten their Registration process. They do not allow to register for Round 2 until all Round 1 ..16 spaces are filled up
Tip:Gather 15 headcounts (friends/relative/family members etc) and include yourself to make up = total 16. Take down all the names & IC number particular, then approach any arcade center to register early.. preferly immdiately after current tournament end(so that you will be the 1st to book for next week's schedule). Entire Round 1 will be all your own people and whoever wins also doesn't matter ...the Champion Lion card + Gold deck box + Silver deck box will go to Organiser who will pay for everyone to play free. So the inestment cost is 16 x S$2 = S$32
Story hearsay(1):31% winning percentage
2 week ago @ Ang Mo Kio Big Mac center (Virtual land) ,Both Round 1 and Round 2 had the same 10 players from 2 families.
Family (1) = 5 members
Family (2) = 5 members
The remaining places are left for others to join...
So,the chance of Winning for each family = 5/16 = 31.25%
Result : Heard that one of the family's 4 years old daughter won the champion
(1st time !)
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Story hearsay(2):100% winning percentage
Last week @ Bishan J8 (Virtualland) tournament Round 1 was book by 1 resourceful Aunty. She approach the staff with a listing of all name particulars and filled up the entire list for Round 1 (all 16 spaces occupied). Then , she ask for another sheet of registration paper and straight away filled up the same name lsiting for Round 2 !! The staff did not stop her beacause registration is base on 1st come 1st serve !!
That week tournament is just like a BIG party from the same "family " gang of 16 people ...other people who wanted to join the tournament...sorry loh...full house...wait another week ..wah ~ wah ~~
Result : Heard that her daughter won 1st prize in round 1...not sure about round 2.
Its a fantastic strategy deal....
Total cost :S$64 = 2 Champion Lion cards + 2 Gold decks + 2 Silver decks
So now...what are you guys waiting for? go get your army of 16 and start to register and book for entire month..haha
Latest update:
Rumour mention that one of the arcade center (White Sand ~ Virtualland) now had tighten their Registration process. They do not allow to register for Round 2 until all Round 1 ..16 spaces are filled up
Friday, October 30, 2009
Version 9 : Battle of the Beetle
Japan organise a real life Animal Kaiser batttle tournament...for Beetle !!
Organiser Beetle Man explaining to participants on the rules of the battle
It is not Animal Kaiser @ AK machine...but here...a special ring
The fight had begin ~
Prize Presentation for the Winner:
A nice Champion belt ..wow !
Video Highlight
FAQ (from Staff of NAMCO BANDAI )
About cards
Question:I damaged my card. Can I get a new one?
Answer:Due to the nature of this product, we cannot exchange cards unless they are initially defective.
Question:How many 'rare' cards are there ? In what order are they dispensed?
Answer:There are a limited number of 'rare' cards and they are dispensed randomly.
About completing the game
Question:Could you tell me how to complete the game?
Answer:Sorry, but we can't give you any tips or advice on the game.
About the locations of Animal Kaiser machines
Question:Where can I play Animal Kaiser?
Answer:Check the official website 'Where can I play?' which shows the list of stores where you can play Animal Kaiser.
Though the list is updated regularly, to avoid disappointment, we strongly recommend that you check with the individual store before you head out.
About suggestions
Question:I'd like to offer my idea for the game.
Answer:While we are always thrilled to see support from our fans, due to legal issues, we cannot accept ideas from our players.
As such, we cannot be held liable or responsible for you suggestions or ideas submitted.
Upgrades
Question:When will the next upgrade be?
Answer:Update release schedule will be posted on the official website.
source:http://www.animalkaiser.com/en/about/index.php
Question:I damaged my card. Can I get a new one?
Answer:Due to the nature of this product, we cannot exchange cards unless they are initially defective.
Question:How many 'rare' cards are there ? In what order are they dispensed?
Answer:There are a limited number of 'rare' cards and they are dispensed randomly.
About completing the game
Question:Could you tell me how to complete the game?
Answer:Sorry, but we can't give you any tips or advice on the game.
About the locations of Animal Kaiser machines
Question:Where can I play Animal Kaiser?
Answer:Check the official website 'Where can I play?' which shows the list of stores where you can play Animal Kaiser.
Though the list is updated regularly, to avoid disappointment, we strongly recommend that you check with the individual store before you head out.
About suggestions
Question:I'd like to offer my idea for the game.
Answer:While we are always thrilled to see support from our fans, due to legal issues, we cannot accept ideas from our players.
As such, we cannot be held liable or responsible for you suggestions or ideas submitted.
Upgrades
Question:When will the next upgrade be?
Answer:Update release schedule will be posted on the official website.
source:http://www.animalkaiser.com/en/about/index.php
Http://www.animalkaiser.com
This domain was created on March 05 2007 with only Japan site for Version 1 (Expire on March 5 2010 ,unless renew)
Its objective is to provide an update Platform for the 2007 Namco kid vending title 'Animal Kaiser' - building on a fierce animal action theme.
Currently,the net worth of this website is about US$16K with US$21 Daily Ads Profits.
IP-address server 220.255.7.142 (Do not atempt to hack it , ok)
Daily Pageviews is about 7000 times
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Here's what we know about animalkaiser.com Domain Handle:
Domain Name: animalkaiser.com
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Source:http://www.websiteaccountant.com/www.animalkaiser.com&y=s&r=6m
source: http://whois.domaintools.com/animalkaiser.com
Its objective is to provide an update Platform for the 2007 Namco kid vending title 'Animal Kaiser' - building on a fierce animal action theme.
Currently,the net worth of this website is about US$16K with US$21 Daily Ads Profits.
IP-address server 220.255.7.142 (Do not atempt to hack it , ok)
Daily Pageviews is about 7000 times
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Here's what we know about animalkaiser.com Domain Handle:
Domain Name: animalkaiser.com
Created On: 2007-03-05 20:53:47.0
Last Updated On: 2008-02-28 14:20:28.0
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Registrant Organization: GMO Internet Inc.
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Registrant Country: JP
Registrant Phone: 03-3464-8727
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Admin Name: Whois Protect Service
Admin Organization: GMO Internet Inc.
Admin Street1: 26-1 Sakuragaoka-cho
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Admin City: Shibuya-ku
Admin State: Tokyo
Admin Postal Code: 150-8512
Admin Country: JP
Admin Phone: 03-3464-8727
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Billing Name: Whois Protect Service
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Billing Street1: 26-1 Sakuragaoka-cho
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Tech Name: Whois Protect Service
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LION VS TIGER: Who Will Win In A Fight? (Part 2)
The tiger is the largest of the cats and is a perfect killing machine with a superior combination of power, cunning and agility.
On the other hand, A lion has an appearance to frighten even the mightiest of animals. There have been some real fights between the two kings of the jungle.
So, what do the evidences and experts (and common sense) say about who will win a fight between the two, or rather, if there are 100 tiger-lion fights which one will have more victories?
THE LIKELY WINNER
Captive animals:
Captive animals often behave differently than the wild ones. In a fight between captive animals, a tiger will have the advantage of size and power. A captive lion will lack the fighting experience of a wild one.
Let’s now talk about ‘wild’ animals, ie, both the animals are at their prime and have been captured fresh from their natural habitat and are in good natural condition.
In small pit/cage:
Lion will have a slender advantage if the fight is in a small closed area since it may get the benefit of taller structure and the mane and the tiger may feel the lack of space.
Agility may not be a big factor. But it may really depend on the size of the respective animal. If the tiger is significantly larger than the lion, the lion may not get a chance to do much harm to the tiger.
In a large area (forest/grassland or even a large ‘cage’):
Tiger may win easily. The stronger hindquarters come into play here. It helps to keep balance and make fast movements.
If the two animals are ignorant of each other’s presence at the begining, it will really be a tiger’s game. Siberian tigers are sometimes reported to predate on female/young brown bears. The female bears may be larger than the tigers and as aggressive as the male ones. But the tiger stalks the bears and then and hunts them.
In a similar way, if a tiger and a lion are released in a forest/grassland, a tiger’s stealth-attacks may be decisive.
Why The Tiger Has a Better Chance of Winning:
There is a popular notion that a lion is meant for fighting whereas a tiger is meant for hunting and hence a lion will win in a tiger-lion fight. Some people mention that like a pitbull can own larger dogs, a lion can defeat a tiger since, like the pitbull, the lion is meant to be a fighter.
This is a bad comparison. That a lion plays the role of a fighter in a pride doesn’t make the tiger a non-fighter and just a predator. A tiger predates AND fights. And that’s why they are way more active than lions.
Over their lifespan, a lion fights other lions less than ten times. This may be well less than the number of tiger-fights a tiger has to face over food/mating/territory. A lion may have to fight off hyenas, too. A tiger, on the other hand, fights with leopards, wolves, dholes and black/brown bears over food/territory.
The ’strength’ analysis is of course an ideal one. A lot of them may prove to be invalid in real fights. Most of the ‘documents’, ‘eye-witness accounts’ and vidoes (though most of them are manipulated to suit the story of movies) show that there is more chance of a tiger winning the fight than a lion winning it. It seems that a tiger might be reluctant to fight at first. But if compelled to, it’s a much better and more powerful fighter than a lion.
Size does matter. An average Bengal/Siberian tiger measures 10 feet and 500 lbs. Can measure up to 11 feet and ~620 lbs. Lions average 9 feet and 410 lbs. Can grow as large as 10 feet and 530 lbs. (Not considering the more extreme cases for either cat). Clearly, tigers have an advantage.
Additionally, the build of a tiger provides much more balance and agility. The weight of a tiger is more evenly distributed over its body-length than that of a lion. A tiger’s tail, being heavier compared to a lion’s, makes it easier for the tiger to turn. And if the animal with larger size also has greater agility, it’s the one that should win more fights. Add to that the advantages of bigger paws, faster swipes and longer canines!
An African lion, hailing from a place where it doesn’t get much competition from other animals, attacks from the word ‘go’. On the other hand, a tiger, coming from places where it fights bears, wild dogs etc, assesses the situation first and then goes for the kill. (Ok, lions, too, live alongside wild dogs. But they don’t clash much since lions live in prides. For the same reason, lions rarely fight leopards). For this reason, some animal trainers and experts have mentioned the tiger as an intelligent boxer. Additionally, the Bengal tigers are widely considered as being extremely aggressive when drawn into a fight.
In 100 fights between the two in any natural setting and in non-extreme climate, I’d bet a Bengal tiger will own an African lion 80 times provided there is no bias in choosing the animals. I’d expect an average Bengal tiger of the Terrai with 530 lbs and 10′, to make a short work of an average South African lion (~410 lbs and 8.5′).
Even pound for pound, a tiger is stronger. If it’s a smaller-than-average Bengal tiger, with size and wight similar to the lion’s, it should be 70-30 in favor of the tiger.
Overall, there may be very few really big and aggressive lions that may defeat a Bengal/Siberian tiger, but on an average a tiger will win against a lion almost everytime.
On the other hand, A lion has an appearance to frighten even the mightiest of animals. There have been some real fights between the two kings of the jungle.
So, what do the evidences and experts (and common sense) say about who will win a fight between the two, or rather, if there are 100 tiger-lion fights which one will have more victories?
THE LIKELY WINNER
Captive animals:
Captive animals often behave differently than the wild ones. In a fight between captive animals, a tiger will have the advantage of size and power. A captive lion will lack the fighting experience of a wild one.
Let’s now talk about ‘wild’ animals, ie, both the animals are at their prime and have been captured fresh from their natural habitat and are in good natural condition.
In small pit/cage:
Lion will have a slender advantage if the fight is in a small closed area since it may get the benefit of taller structure and the mane and the tiger may feel the lack of space.
Agility may not be a big factor. But it may really depend on the size of the respective animal. If the tiger is significantly larger than the lion, the lion may not get a chance to do much harm to the tiger.
In a large area (forest/grassland or even a large ‘cage’):
Tiger may win easily. The stronger hindquarters come into play here. It helps to keep balance and make fast movements.
If the two animals are ignorant of each other’s presence at the begining, it will really be a tiger’s game. Siberian tigers are sometimes reported to predate on female/young brown bears. The female bears may be larger than the tigers and as aggressive as the male ones. But the tiger stalks the bears and then and hunts them.
In a similar way, if a tiger and a lion are released in a forest/grassland, a tiger’s stealth-attacks may be decisive.
Why The Tiger Has a Better Chance of Winning:
There is a popular notion that a lion is meant for fighting whereas a tiger is meant for hunting and hence a lion will win in a tiger-lion fight. Some people mention that like a pitbull can own larger dogs, a lion can defeat a tiger since, like the pitbull, the lion is meant to be a fighter.
This is a bad comparison. That a lion plays the role of a fighter in a pride doesn’t make the tiger a non-fighter and just a predator. A tiger predates AND fights. And that’s why they are way more active than lions.
Over their lifespan, a lion fights other lions less than ten times. This may be well less than the number of tiger-fights a tiger has to face over food/mating/territory. A lion may have to fight off hyenas, too. A tiger, on the other hand, fights with leopards, wolves, dholes and black/brown bears over food/territory.
The ’strength’ analysis is of course an ideal one. A lot of them may prove to be invalid in real fights. Most of the ‘documents’, ‘eye-witness accounts’ and vidoes (though most of them are manipulated to suit the story of movies) show that there is more chance of a tiger winning the fight than a lion winning it. It seems that a tiger might be reluctant to fight at first. But if compelled to, it’s a much better and more powerful fighter than a lion.
Size does matter. An average Bengal/Siberian tiger measures 10 feet and 500 lbs. Can measure up to 11 feet and ~620 lbs. Lions average 9 feet and 410 lbs. Can grow as large as 10 feet and 530 lbs. (Not considering the more extreme cases for either cat). Clearly, tigers have an advantage.
Additionally, the build of a tiger provides much more balance and agility. The weight of a tiger is more evenly distributed over its body-length than that of a lion. A tiger’s tail, being heavier compared to a lion’s, makes it easier for the tiger to turn. And if the animal with larger size also has greater agility, it’s the one that should win more fights. Add to that the advantages of bigger paws, faster swipes and longer canines!
An African lion, hailing from a place where it doesn’t get much competition from other animals, attacks from the word ‘go’. On the other hand, a tiger, coming from places where it fights bears, wild dogs etc, assesses the situation first and then goes for the kill. (Ok, lions, too, live alongside wild dogs. But they don’t clash much since lions live in prides. For the same reason, lions rarely fight leopards). For this reason, some animal trainers and experts have mentioned the tiger as an intelligent boxer. Additionally, the Bengal tigers are widely considered as being extremely aggressive when drawn into a fight.
In 100 fights between the two in any natural setting and in non-extreme climate, I’d bet a Bengal tiger will own an African lion 80 times provided there is no bias in choosing the animals. I’d expect an average Bengal tiger of the Terrai with 530 lbs and 10′, to make a short work of an average South African lion (~410 lbs and 8.5′).
Even pound for pound, a tiger is stronger. If it’s a smaller-than-average Bengal tiger, with size and wight similar to the lion’s, it should be 70-30 in favor of the tiger.
Overall, there may be very few really big and aggressive lions that may defeat a Bengal/Siberian tiger, but on an average a tiger will win against a lion almost everytime.
The Ambush Killer - Tiger
Living largely secretive life and attacking preys using stealth, cunning and agility, a tiger is mostly considered a villain (like Sher Khan in Kipling’s Jungle Book).
Moreover, the man-eaters in India have further maligned the image of a tiger. Not much is still known about the lives of the tigers in the wild and hence a lot of the information considered as ‘facts’ about tigers are merely informed guesses.
Since the chance of encountering a tiger in the wild is way less than the chance of encountering a wild lion, a lot of data about tigers reflect either only a small population of them, or are based on indirect studies, or both. Also, a tiger’s unwillingness to fight without necessity has often been seen as lack of courage and aggression.
Vital Statistics:
[There are a lot of variation in the figures found online.
* Largest Siberian Tiger found in the wild : 845 lbs/ 384 kg.
* Longest Siberian Tiger found in the wild: 12′9″/ 3.9 m
* Largest Bengal Tiger found in the wild: 857 lbs/ 389 kg. 3.22 m 10 ft 7 in between pegs (3.37 m 11ft over the curves)
*(The largest tiger ever held in captivity, and the heaviest ‘natural big cat’ on record, is a nine-year-old male Siberian named ‘Jaipur’, owned by animal trainer Joan Byron-Marasek of Clarksburg, New Jersey, USA. This tiger measured 3.32 m 10 ft 11in in total length and weiged 423 kg 932 lb in October 1986)
* Average size (mode) of Siberian Tigers living in the wild: 550 lbs (250 kg) and 11′/ 3.35 m
* Average size (mode) of Bengal Tigers living in the wild: 500 lbs (227 kg) and 9′6″/ 2.9 m (Bengal tigers have a slightly shorter tail than the Siberians)
** The Bengal Tigers have the longest canines **
The Greatest Cat:
Tigers vary in size as well as in aggressiveness (supposedly, at least), not only across different sub-species but also depending on the region they inhabit. Bengal tigers found in Nepal, Bhutan and in Assam, Uttaranchal & West Bengal (Northern part) states in India (collectively, the tigers of the Terrai and Duars) are larger than Bengal tigers found in Sunderbans and Rajasthan.
The Sumatran tigers are supposedly the fiercest but they are the smallest sub-species of tigers. The Siberian tigesr are the biggest, but considered to be less agile and less aggressive than a Bengal tiger. The Bengal tigers are most widely touted as the most skillful and overall best breed of tigers – nearly as big (male ~230 Kg, ~3 m) as the Siberian ones but much more fierce, agile and strong.
The Bengal tigers of the Terrai are often bigger than average Siberian tigers
Relative Advantages Over a Lion:
1.Longer and often larger size. Now this is often posed by the people who pick a tiger to win, as a serious threat to a lion. A larger yet more agile body of a tiger is really a serious threat to a lion. But this alone can not be a decisive factor.
2.More powerful back legs. This helps a tiger to leap more, to spring from a disadvantageous position and to make sudden moves. This is of tremendous advantage to the tiger. This gives the tiger the ability to rest its weight on the hind legs and make swipes with both of the front legs. Plus, the strong hindquarters allow them to attack from the side and spring from unexpected/disadvantageous corners. Moreover, a tiger makes faster swipes than a lion. Tigers are more agile than lions.
3.Skills of ambush attacking, tree-climbing, swimming etc are handy if the going gets tough. Plus, tigers are faster runners. These are all defence mechanisms for a tiger just as the mane is for a lion.
4.Longer canines, longer claws and larger paws. These are the ultimate weapons of a cat. Tigers have considerable advantage here.
Amazing Tiger video:
3.15 sec - Watch rare video footage of tiger's amazing vertical leap.
WARNING: Watch with discretion! Graphic scenes of tigers' deadly attack.
The KING of Beasts - Lion
Lion is known to be the King of Beasts across most cultures of the world.
This is mostly because of a lion’s appearance and partly because of the social structure of a pride and the lion’s role in the pride. A lion does possess a royal look and attitude. Add to that a tremendous roar that can be heard over miles on the Savannah. Also, living in a pride, a lion doesn’t need to hide itself or avoid any other animals including human beings.
A lions lives in the open and controls its territory like a true king, sporting a ‘kingly’ mane and heading a pride that feeds him. The Bible of the Christians and the Geeta of the Hindus both mention the lion as the king of the beasts. So it has got accepted as a sign of royalty all over the world from as early as the Roman empire
Vital Statistics:
[There are a lot of variation in the figures found online. I tried to collect them from reputed instituion and/or govt sources]
*Largest Lion in captivity: 806 lbs (366 kg)
*Largest Lion found in the wild: 702 lbs (318 kg) and 11′ (3.35 m)
*Average size (mode) of African Lion: 410 lbs (186 kg) and 8′10″ (2.7 m)
** Lions stand around 1.15m (including mane) at shoulder as opposed to 1m of a tiger
The King of The Kings:
When you think of a lion, you think of an African lion. The Asiatic ones are somewhat smaller in size and relatively unknown living in the tiger country. There is no significant variation in size among the African lions. In some online forums it is claimed that Ngorongoro Crater lions are the largest sub-specis of lions. But there is no base to that claim.. The Tsavo lions are generally considered more aggressive, but they are naturally maneless.
Choice: African lion (with mane).
Relative advantages over a tiger:
1.Thick protective mane. It also makes a lion look much bigger, heavier and taller than it really is. This is of immediate psychological disadvantage to any animal fighting a lion. It’s downright scary to see a lion coming towards you roaring. A lioness, even if it were of similar size, wouldn’t inspire as much awe. From the fight videos, it does seem that the mane is of huge advantage to the lion. In the only fight-video of a maneless (shaved) lion, the lion seemed too easy to beat by the tiger. The mane is the biggest weapon for a lion – both for defence and for scaring off the opponent.
2..More massively built shoulders. Both the cats have extremely powerful and muscular ’shoulders’ and forelimbs.
3.Taller structure. This makes the lion more intimidating. Also, this somewhat compensates for the weaker hindquarters.
Here’s a very good video showcasing lions:
This is mostly because of a lion’s appearance and partly because of the social structure of a pride and the lion’s role in the pride. A lion does possess a royal look and attitude. Add to that a tremendous roar that can be heard over miles on the Savannah. Also, living in a pride, a lion doesn’t need to hide itself or avoid any other animals including human beings.
A lions lives in the open and controls its territory like a true king, sporting a ‘kingly’ mane and heading a pride that feeds him. The Bible of the Christians and the Geeta of the Hindus both mention the lion as the king of the beasts. So it has got accepted as a sign of royalty all over the world from as early as the Roman empire
Vital Statistics:
[There are a lot of variation in the figures found online. I tried to collect them from reputed instituion and/or govt sources]
*Largest Lion in captivity: 806 lbs (366 kg)
*Largest Lion found in the wild: 702 lbs (318 kg) and 11′ (3.35 m)
*Average size (mode) of African Lion: 410 lbs (186 kg) and 8′10″ (2.7 m)
** Lions stand around 1.15m (including mane) at shoulder as opposed to 1m of a tiger
The King of The Kings:
When you think of a lion, you think of an African lion. The Asiatic ones are somewhat smaller in size and relatively unknown living in the tiger country. There is no significant variation in size among the African lions. In some online forums it is claimed that Ngorongoro Crater lions are the largest sub-specis of lions. But there is no base to that claim.. The Tsavo lions are generally considered more aggressive, but they are naturally maneless.
Choice: African lion (with mane).
Relative advantages over a tiger:
1.Thick protective mane. It also makes a lion look much bigger, heavier and taller than it really is. This is of immediate psychological disadvantage to any animal fighting a lion. It’s downright scary to see a lion coming towards you roaring. A lioness, even if it were of similar size, wouldn’t inspire as much awe. From the fight videos, it does seem that the mane is of huge advantage to the lion. In the only fight-video of a maneless (shaved) lion, the lion seemed too easy to beat by the tiger. The mane is the biggest weapon for a lion – both for defence and for scaring off the opponent.
2..More massively built shoulders. Both the cats have extremely powerful and muscular ’shoulders’ and forelimbs.
3.Taller structure. This makes the lion more intimidating. Also, this somewhat compensates for the weaker hindquarters.
Here’s a very good video showcasing lions:
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